Is NJ corruption free?
Aug 5th, 2008 | By Michael L. Saile, Jr., Esq. | Category: Blogs, Criminal & Traffic, PA & NJ Speed TrapsThis week, the NJ Attorney General, herself was ticketed for speeding in New Jersey on Route 1 South. Reportedly she was clocked at 69 m.p.h. in a 50 m.p.h. speed zone.
This is refreshing to hear after all the news about NJ Municipal Court judges and employees getting in trouble for ticket fixing in the last few years.
Although, the Attorney General is the chief law enforcement officer and should set an example for the citizens of New Jersey, it appears that she was honest and did not use her position, power, and influence to talk her way out of the NJ speeding ticket.
Conspiracy theorists may have a different opinion and think that this was a set-up to make NJ public officials appear more honest…although she did break the law.
What do you think?
well, did she fight the ticket in court ?, is she going to fight the ticket… plead not guilty? this we dont know,….. surely i would think, she probably could out argue pro se the prosecutor in that court?, no?
the 2nd point here is,…. does she realize that millions of nj drivers are faced with this in nj municipal courts every year, and that it really doesnt sit well with citizens that she will break this statute, but yet have the states prosecutors prosecute it…..
i know it seems so little a thing, speeding,… but i look at things with the moral definition of the law,… i think that morality tells me that if this state of nj has speeding laws they need to be obeyed,…. but i really do not think anyone gets it, because this is the most common offense i would think in nj municipal courts,…
maybe we need to put devices on cars that limit the speed to the speed limit of the road thay are on through computer controls and satilite location devices, to send the message to every car’s engine not to go over a speed.
we talk about the law, … but we do nothing to ensure it is obeyed but take money out of our pockets to pay this persons salary
i do not think the conspiracy theory you write about is valid,…. because who the heck ever heard of this happening,….. it is a needle in a haystack, maybe people in law heard about it in passig, but the regular joe on the street didnt,….. it does nothing to give me confidence …
i think rather, by luck of the draw, she was speeding and got caught,….. probably on her way to her office in trenton, to work on murder cases….
true honesty would on her part would have to entail not speeding at all.. it isnt about being caught or not, itr is wether or not it happened in truth , and has really nothing to do with being caught, or paying a fine,….
nj drivers are cruxified for speeding, and all well and good, … but we, again here, make it a lottery as to who pays an d who doesnt…..
why doesnt everyone just obey the laws and statutes?
is corruption dead in nj? lol, dont make me laugh, everything is corrupted in nj,… it is known for being the most corrupted states in the nation,… and while it is probably just as corrupt as any other state, expecially when it comes to criminal justice, and especially as seen by most nj resident’s exposor to it in municipal court….
i was pulled over for speeding by stationary radar in sept of 2005,…… i was given a careless driving ticket instead of a speeding ticket,……
i have made now 16 court appearances in nearly 3 years in municipal court, and still can not get the radar discovery, simply because it does not exist,…… this is total corruption for many angles of the justice system…… not only by law is the officer suppose to have this required discovery package when he sets upo to run stationary radar,…. the state needed to dismiss my case because it doesnt exist,….
am i wrong? ,… cause every attorney i called says i am right….
it is certainly an act of corruption in my case, and while the legal definition may or may not apply, certainly the standard lower case spelled websters dictionary definition would apply, as well as the moral definition.
the system is corrupt (lower case spelling). it is human nature to corrupt everything we contact, physicaly and mentaly…..
the law, especially on the municipal court level, and municipal town level as far as the state part of the triparte government, and judiciary part, is so corrupted,……
the law is not held in high esteem for everyone to strive to fullfill its legal and moral meaning,…….
in other words, if the law was held in high esteem by our nj attorney general, she would not have been speeding,……and may she does have some rights as the attorney general to speed in an emergency situation, because of her badge,…. she had no right to speed on this occassion….
she obviously thinks the law is a joke…. and the conspiracy mentioned in the original posat by mr saile, that he said some people may llook at it as a conspiracy, i say, get with reality,….. this is an attorney general, who disreagarded the law,.. well the statute,…… and do you think it is the first time she ever speed in her life?…… if we took all the times in all truth that she speed over the limit, she wouldnt have a license ever again, and neither would a majority , it not all nj drivers,…..
why do we have speeding statutes?.. to make money for towns and state,…. or to ensure saftey on the road,…..
only the highest most moral integrity is accepted by me,….. and if she speed, she probably speed many times, maybe hundreds of times,….. and this is a moral delema
how many times have you, whoever is reading this, has gove 26mph in a 25 mph zone, down a neighborhood street,?….. did you break the law, yes you did……
and this is not corruption,.it is just our inabilty of a people to ensure the law is obeyed,…. but also our inability as individuals to obey the law as written,…
why do we have laws……? to set a bar and platform for which we draw the line between right and wrong, for legitmate law, morals, saftey,….
the lw applies to everyone,….. and in my particular case, or any case, where the state and judiciary broke the law, …. then the remedy within the law is a dismissal….
but because of corruption, i am not getting a dismissal,… n ot matter how hard i argue, that 16 appearance and 36 months, for a traffic violation is too long to hold me prisoner in nj,….. and i say this….
forget the 4 parts of barker,…. the state and courts will twist and corrupt the law,…. in order to prevail and think they are morally correct, when in truth they are not,…. because it has nothing to do with 4 elements under one caselaw,….. there are thosands and trhousands of sub points in nj mubicipal court and appealate law, that make it nearly impossible for a fefense attorney, let alone a pro se defendant, to prevail on legitimate moral grounds,….. but for coruption either way, the state or the defensdant will prevail….
do not for a minute state v farrel went the defendants way because of speedy trial defendants rights,….. it went the defendants way because the highly regarded defense attorney was inconvienced by making 13 appearances over 23 months…… not because the defendant made these appearances….
thats the only reason farrell wqon, because his attorney made a stink about his time, and it had nothing to do with defendants rights
this is the corruption i am talking about….
now, maybe, 80, 90. even 95% of the time a municipal court prosecutor anbd a municipal court defense attorney can hammer out justrice in the hall way of the court house, on both legal and moral grounds,….. but not 100% of the time.
there are, and always will be cases, where an agreement can not be reached under the law, and then rest of the law needs to be enacted….. this burde is primarily on the State, the prosecutor,….
but to have a 3 year, 16 appearance, stare down, is not the fault of the defendant, but the fault of the State, in a municipal court traffic offense,. and the remedy is a dissmissal under the law,…..
especially when the State was court ordered by the supreme court of nj, to proceed to trial years ago…..
and lewt the chips have fallen where they may, everyone plays all their cards, and let the law, in all its’ moral and legitimate forms, prevail….
why cant this happen?
now, there are people complaining in law blogs about making 3 appearances in 86 days in a nj municipal court,. lol., that is funny to me, and you know why…
but it is relevant to what the citizens of nj expect from its staff,….
appealate decision after appealate decision, recent, a few years ago, and older, not matter when, have ruled agaionst defendants speedy trial rights, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, …. i even read a case thast was pending 20 years where the defendant lost on speedy trial …..
this is thew real issue, corruption…… we saw it clearly in state v chun,…. and we see it in every case where a defendant really probably does have a leghitimate mora/legal reason to appeal, but the courts wont hear of it……. and farrell was one that got luckey because not that he had his rights violated, but because he defense attorney had his rioghts violated…
what can i do?….. there are 1000 points, and the appealate division, even after the law division, only needs to find 1 out of 1000 points to support a conviction….. even if the defendant has 999 points covered,….
now if that isnt corruprtion, i must be insane…
shouldnt the law play into things things?,……
when the supreme court of nj ordered all 39 4 50 prosecutions to proceed to trial, no matter what, as by order, proceedded to trial?
the only thing out of the ordinary trhat was suppose to happen in 39 4 50 prosecutions, was that first offense cases for the alcotest dui may or not have SENTENCES STAYED, depending on the judges discretion,…. and that no defendant was allowed to challange the alcotest on a scientific basis,…
what was suppose to happen were trials to occur, general breath testing and probable ccause, and everything be brought up as fit by both sides,…… as usual….. and the chips fall where they6 may….. and 2nd offendsers or more had not sentence stay available on the akcotrest, maybe a first offense case might, at the judges discretion have a stay on sentence idf the finding of guilt was based all or in part on the alcotest….
there is no legitimate reason for a nj muncipal court, during the time the order was in palce, jan 10, 2006 to march 17 2008, to hold no dui trials, at all,……
where are our rights as citizens as to nj supreme court orders?
where does is say a court order from the highest court in nj shopuld not be obeyed across the board….
certainly, the nj supreme court, in all its wisdom, and i stand with them, felt a defendants right to a trial was more important to the right to confront the alcotest on a scientific basis, pending state v chun,…. and i have lived this hardship of the prosecutors contempt of this order in my case, and can be seen across the boartd in this court,. and the judges obstruction of justive in my case, and can be seen acreoss the board….
i do not wish to gewt into why, you know the reasons why,…. and the supreme cdourt of nj knew the reasons why it was important to order the trials to proceeedc, and yet,.. this order was completyely disrteagarded…
i lived it, i know,… i was the situation thjew nj suprem,e court had in mind when they upheld my right to a trial, that the local prosecutor and judge took away…
now, i can understand on academic reasoning, that 60 day rule could go on for 7 opr 8 months…… when i hired my original attorney on spet 29, 2006, 12 days after my arrest , for a first offense low level dui, alcotest, he told me the case would be over in like 7 or 8 months, in the summer of 2006,…. and when the supreme court of nj ordered all these type cdases to proceed to trial on jan 10 2006,…. it should have been a matter of law my case go to trial, under the terms of that order…. itdidnt i made 14 court appearances between jan 10 2006 and june 2008,…. and a 15th in a new court, because of some phamtom, off the record, reasoning my case needed to be transfered to a far away muncvipality,…. and one can only think it was because of my 3 speedy trial assertions/motions. and hearing….. in which the judger, in direct disregard for the nj supreme court, said everyone has to wait….. if that isnt corruption, i dont know what is….
IT IS CORRUPTION OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS…
NOW I AM FACING MY 16TH COURT APPEARTANCE, ONE WEEK SHGORT OF 3 YEARS,….. OF WHICH I HOPE AND PRAY MOTIONS ARE MADE ON MY BEHALF, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION, WHO KINOWS,….
IT IS TOTAL BS….
considering people are complaining about 2-3 months delay, a 36 month delaty with 16 appearances needs argument, in light of the order to propceed to trial on jan 10 2006 by the supreme court of nj, asd well as the us constitution, the nj constitition, nj municipal court rules, cannons of ethics,…. and everything else that applies within those things and apart from those things….
i was in a place in life wherre i needed this copurt order to be followed and upheld,…… it was uphelds by bthe nj supreme court, but never followed by the local stateand court…..
i needed to get on with my life…. move away to another state, years ago,.. and been allowed due process as ordered by the nj supreme court,…..
can you not understand what i am saying.?
i have lost 3 years an ongoing of my my life because of contempt of a cpourt order and obstruction of justice, as definedc within the 2 nj statutes, let alone, many other points of law,……. and i even thopugh i have 999 oput of 1000 points of law onb my side, al;l the appealate division needs to find is one poi nt againt me. and i lose another 3 years of my life…..
i have heard the term , transactional immunity many times,………in my ventures on the internet…… but i will stand by the right that the State nor the courts have transactiuonal immunity to dent me the right of a nj supreme court order@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was directed at them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my god man, why should i have sufdfered for 3 years,.. and ongoing….. unmless for intentional disregard for a court order….
and even is this particular municipal court wants to argue stupidity as to the nj supreme court order of jan 10, 2006 in regards to first offense cases,….. there is no explanatuion to have not went to trial in ony 2nd offense cases or higher, …… the fact is, they refused to obey the court order in every case before them, both,.. the court and the state,…..
not only did every 2nd or higher offense case require a trail if a not guilty plea,…. so did my first offense case,…. read the order and understand it…..
my civil and constitutional rights have been severly violated…….
anmd i can prove it,…. so i assume the atare down will continue
the stare down will continue, because the state and the court simply has no idea how to remedy this….. I GIVE YOU THE ANSWER—– DISMISSMY CASE@!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and now, after the final decision in state v chun was decided and written, and the order of jan 10 2006 vacated,…. and new procedures and rules were established within the final order, i can and will testify as my own expert witness as to the alcotest,…….. but i could have gotten this any, with eith post convicxtion relief, under the final ecision, . or if my sentence was stayed, been allowed to do this,…. as m argument was not covcered in the 80,000 pages of chun, as as so ordered by the final opinoio in state v chun…. however, i feel and have always felt, as did my attorneys first impression of the case back in sept 0f 2005, that the stop had no probable cause….
so i got the following to argue—- speedy trial, due process, obstruction of justice,. contempt of court, probable cause, field sobriety by a hired expert,. alcotest/breath tresting by a hired expert,… cross examination as to everything written and said,… and my own alcotest argument as an expert as to genertal analytical procedures as reuired by federal and state agencies,…. ,…
and if not for corruptrion, i would probably get the opportunity to argue all these things, and the thousdands of subpoints within each, bringing the municipal court to 24 hours of trial testimony at least.
although we all kinow this is my right….. is is now 36 months and 16 appearances, and neither the state nor the couret will allow it to take place,….
they have 2 choices, wqell 3, allow me my rights, dismiss my case, or continue the stare down…
this being said, a defendant has no control over which option the state and the courts will choose…… and it is legally on the State, as a matter of law, to decide, what they want to do,…….. IN NJ…. so i sit here, wondering, anxious, stressed, depreessed, having lost 3 years of mt life,…. waiting for the State to decide what they want to do…
lol, it was comical, if not so tradgic, that the state, in my hearing to dismiss based on speedy trial in early march, before the 17th, said they offered the defense to go to trial without the bac….. my god man, wtf are they talking about, the State was ordered to proceed to trial without an arguement to the scie ce,….. although general breath testing procedures would have applied,… let alone the entirte probable cause for stop defense,……. my god man, these guys are literally idiots upon their profession,.;….. the fact is thew State had a free ride,. basically, to present the case and the bac, and without scientific bac challange, gotten a probable convictiuon, and then up to the judge to decide whether or not a sentencve, in only a first offense case, wopuld be stayed,….. what the f is the prosecurtor talking about when he says he offereed a defense attorney off the record in the hall to go to trial without the bac…. my god,….. he needed to go to trial with any evidence he had, to protect and preserve the judicial integrity of the nj supreme court order, period…. his argument would be laughable if not so tradgic to my life
read the court order and try to understand it….. the nj suprteme court knew nd felt, as i do, that a trial is of the utmost importance in 39 4 50 prosecutions,…. even more important than state v chun,… and i totally agree,….. because all being said and done, it bopilsddopwn to the facts of the case, which needed to be presented to the court in a trial, and the chips having falled where they may…..
in my case….. to have taken away 3 yearts of my life, in my individual circumstances, and have 3 years hanging over my heads,. because of circumstanhces, including potential jail time as allowed by law…. in a case where the nj supreme court made this oder, it a tradgedey, nd a corruption of the judicial process…
it may sound like i am being hard on the attorney general and the justice system in my thoughts,…… but they are only thoughts, thoughts from a meaningless person in this realm,….. however, the justice system has been hard on me, a nj citizen, and in this realm , i am meaningful,… each of us are important,… I am not sure how easy it is going to be for them to look at 36 months and 16 appearances, and ongoing, and tuck the 36 and 16 away as numbers, and consider me only a number on a docket record……. i am a person, a citizen, and deserve better than to be treated like a number that is so easily swept away into ruin because they, the justice system, refused or couldnt perform their duties as required by law
and it may very well be easy for the justrice system to only consider me a number and not a person,…… i am going to find out, eventually….. i would think…. but not even that is guarnteed now,….. as the constitutions of the us and nj have been thrown out the window, all nj court rules, ethics, and court orders, have been thrown out the window in my case…… it may be that i never get a trial, but am called into court every 2 months for the rest of my life …… this is a real possibility,…… and it sucks
FREEDOM IS STILL THE UTMOST RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR NATION AND OUR CITIZENS…….. AND MAY GOD DAM THOSE WHO DO NOT TAKE THEIR GOVERNMENT JOBS WITH THIS IMPORTANCE ON THEM…… TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIOVES SO I , AN WE, CAN HAVE TRIALS, AND BY GOD, YOU PEOPLE THAT HAVE TAKEN MY FREEDOM AWAY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ,………. NMOST OF YOU ARE ALCOHOLICS, DRUG ADDICTS, CRIMINALS, AND TRAFFIC VIOLATORS, THAT HAVE GORTTEN AWAY WITH THEIR CRAP../…. I KNOW FIRST HAND, AS DOES ANY ONE WHO GREW UP IN MY AGE, WHAT THE REAL DEAL IS
EVEN PRESIDENT CLINTON ADMITTED TO POSSESSING POT, BECAUSE HOW WOULD HE HAVE SMOKED IT, AND NOT INHJALED, WITHOUT HOLDING IT IN HIS HAND
???????????????????????????? ANSWER ME YOU GOD DAM IDIOTS
AND DO YOU THINK I AM LYING WHEN I SAY THAT I PERONALLY KNOW CPOLICE OFICERS , LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND EVER JUDGES, … THAT USED ALCOHOL UNDERAGE, AND USED POT, LSD, AND COCAINE BOTH UNDER AND OVER THE AGE OF 21? I AINT LYING MY FRIENDS, …. THIS IS COMMON, MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME KNOW PEOPLE FROM THERE HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE DAYS THAT ARE NOW IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT USE DRUGS AND ALCOHOL…. COME ON, GET WITH REALITY ASS HOLES
AND IM NHOT SAYING I USE ANY DRUGS OR ALCDHOL , I DONT, I AM JUST POINTING OUT THE HYPOPCRACY WITHIN OUT GOVERNMENT,,,,,,
mr saile, i cant believe you posted those highly imflammatory comments i made…..
i congratulate you for not running a biased website,… for allowing opinions to be expressed freely….. whether you agreee with them or not, or whether you want to hear them or not, or whether they are right or wrong on any levels….
as you konw, all i want is simple due process of law, that should be so routine to the justice system, it seems almost imposible that my nj municipal court case is now 36 months and 16 appearances old, having had requested a mirada hearing on oct 3 , 2005, and never having had one……
not withstanding a nj supreme court order on jan 10, 2006 ordering the case to proceed to trial……
unbelievable i am sitting here today, having lost the last 3 years of my life, because the local judge and prosecutor thought it better to sat forget the nj suprtemer court order, let us act evil and take away the next 3 years of this person’s life, and maybe more, as much as we can, let us pummle this one nobody into the ground so he cant live in freedom over the course of many many years….
it seems unbelievable, but yet,, it is true…
well, now we will find out just hoe corrupted NJ is. My mom and my family are going up against the stongest oraganization in NJ with political corruption- the roman catholic church
here is the story and the reccomendations::::
My mom was in a double fatal car accident Sunday. The other driver died. The passenger in front seat in my mom’s car died, the passenger in back seat of my mom’s car was thrown from the car and suffered severe vertbret damage. My mom is in trauma ICU, every bone on both legs upper and lower broken, broken arm, broken ankle, broken wrist, burns to her feet, and maybe more injuries. She underwent a 2nd 8 hour surgery yesterday to repair bones. The accident was caused by the other driver, the police have realsed statements, saying he ran a stop sign on a cross road of a 4 lane main highway, going through pokomoke maryland. All parties live in NJ. The driver that caused the accident was a Catholic Monk and a Catholic Priest, acted as both, in Our Lady of Fatima Monestary in Mt. Laurel NJ, and in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Trenton. He has been here over 11 years. He had taken a vow of poverty. As there was a vow of poverty, the car he drove was owned by the Order or the Diocese.
here are the recomedations i am recieving today::
1) hire a jewish attorney outside the geographical area of the diocese.
2 ) a law fim with one or 2 attorneys, that are counsels of law- a renegade
3) the attorney is a ” mechanic”
4) the attorney wlil not take payoffs or buy outs
5) know the law as to ” covenant of good faith” in dealing with the insurance companies
6) the diocese is probably self insured
7) any settlement would have to include lifetime medical and after care for my mom
9) insurance companies can pay any amout they want to beyond the limits of the policy
10) hire a private detective form the philadelphia are, outside nj, but close to the mt lauel area
11)do not guess or assume anything in regards to the law
12) do not tell the ” mechanic” what to do
13) expect the case to go on for about 2 1/2 years
14) expect a settlement offer because no one wants to go to trial- but do not accept anything less than life time medical, and a 4 million dollars for suffering